murali maama with gopi chandana in same thiruvanamalai in matha. for us tamilnadu madhwas, we keep interacting with iyers all the time. hence sandanam, vibuthi and kungamam is fungible and interchangeable. my father late tn narayanan was an ardent murugan bhakthan who used to sport vibhuthi single pattai huge every morning. and he inculcated same in me. i still remember that when i went to college, i carried one full kinnam of vibuthi. note that i did not know how to put that gopi-bhupi though i have seen my grandfather put in on his chest, biceps, two kidney locations lower stomach etc. will try to locate some childhood snaps of mine with some full sacred ash glory and send